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Patrol go bang! Problem with new motor
« on: October 24, 2011, 08:35:37 PM »
Well going home today from work, stopped at the lights & the motor started coughing & spluttering. Being a Patrol GQ 2.8td I immediately started worrying. Looked out the back & there was white smoke everywhere. Bugger, big bugger even. Temp guage showed up the top near the red so I shut it down. Opened bonnet & there was a spray of oil over the passenger side inner guard, blowback from somewhere I guess. Decided she was not going anywhere. Called RACQ. A bloke pulled up & found out he was a mechanic so we had a discussion. His thoughts were a dropped valve or cracked ring. Mine were how the F&^% will I pay for this. We decided to hit the starter to have a listen & "bang" she no go anymore.
Long story short is that it was trucked to the mechanics & we'll deal with it tomorrow.
What to do, do i put a new rebuilt motor in it or scrap it & look elsewhere? It's a 95 ST with 235,000 on the clock with a 2" lift. Just had the fuel pump rebuilt & new ckutch put in it recently. I sort of like it but can't afford a new one. Maybe remotor it & keep it for another 100K then sell it. Who knows.
Please tell me this is a bad dream.
What would you do with the beast?
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Re: Patrol go bang!
« Reply #1 on: October 24, 2011, 08:38:54 PM »
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What would you do with the beast?
Sadly worth nothing as is

Buy a wrecked 4.2 GQ diesel for couple a grand and swap it all over.

or buy another 2.8 from engine reco place
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Re: Patrol go bang!
« Reply #2 on: October 24, 2011, 08:38:56 PM »


It's all just a bad, bad, bad, bad dream!

Bin it and go Toyota ...  >:D

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Re: Patrol go bang!
« Reply #3 on: October 24, 2011, 08:43:32 PM »
Quote from: Lost on October 24, 2011, 08:38:54 PM
Sadly worth nothing as is

Buy a wrecked 4.2 GQ diesel for couple a grand and swap it all over.

or buy another 2.8 from engine reco place
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Re: Patrol go bang!
« Reply #4 on: October 24, 2011, 08:44:06 PM »
You could always bin the 2.8 and fit a 3.0lt, then you'd have nothing to worry about................. >:D
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Re: Patrol go bang!
« Reply #5 on: October 24, 2011, 08:46:04 PM »
Depends on what sort of dollars we are talking for another donk. What do they go for?
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Re: Patrol go bang!
« Reply #6 on: October 24, 2011, 08:52:46 PM »
Quote from: Moto Mech on October 24, 2011, 08:44:06 PM
You could always bin the 2.8 and fit a 3.0lt, then you'd have nothing to worry about................. >:D

Between this comment and taunting us with the photos of your trip, You are an evil man. 8) 8) 8) ;D
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Re: Patrol go bang!
« Reply #7 on: October 24, 2011, 08:54:47 PM »
Quote from: singo-26 on October 24, 2011, 08:52:46 PM
Between this comment and taunting us with the photos of your trip, You are an evil man. 8) 8) 8) ;D
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Re: Patrol go bang!
« Reply #8 on: October 24, 2011, 08:54:52 PM »
Firstly you need to work out exactly what has gone wrong with your motor before stressing too much. It might be major, it might be $500 and you're going again. it could have done a turbo seal which will make them blow more smoke than if it was on fire, if it's done a valve and then damaged a piston then you can start talking $$ to fix.
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Re: Patrol go bang!
« Reply #9 on: October 24, 2011, 09:08:18 PM »
Quote from: Moto Mech on October 24, 2011, 08:44:06 PM
You could always bin the 2.8 and fit a 3.0lt, then you'd have nothing to worry about................. >:D

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Even though I have a LC I see the appeal of the Datsuns get it rebuilt or a reconed motor,  but be careful which you get as the ZD30 was known as the Grenade Motor for a very good reason...   http://www.patrol4x4.com/forum/nissan-patrol-gu-gr-10/zd30-grenade-warning-signs-45684/

Even Toyota had an Achilles heal the 1HD-t (which I have) would cock a leg if the BEB's were not changed after 100,000km's

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Re: Patrol go bang!
« Reply #10 on: October 24, 2011, 09:55:15 PM »
Not good Noel.
I had a 2.8 td GU last year....we didn't get along so I sold it. I began to worry constantly about when and where it would go Bang! even though it had had the head rebuilt and seemed to be quite reliable....I still was unsure about it.
My dear ol Ma has a 92' GQ 4.2TD(silver top) with about 375k on it and it will go forever without a doubt. She's ready to part with it if you are looking for a donor....looking for offers around 8K, its not the prettiest but it has all the right bits. If she'd decided to sell it last year while I had the GU I would have kept it for myself and converted mine, the TD42 is a tuff donk, add a turbo and it will fly.

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Re: Patrol go bang!
« Reply #11 on: October 24, 2011, 09:58:06 PM »
Quote from: noel_w on October 24, 2011, 08:35:37 PM
Well going home today from work, stopped at the lights & the motor started coughing & spluttering. Being a Patrol GQ 2.8td I immediately started worrying. Looked out the back & there was white smoke everywhere. Bugger, big bugger even. Temp guage showed up the top near the red so I shut it down. Opened bonnet & there was a spray of oil over the passenger side inner guard, blowback from somewhere I guess. Decided she was not going anywhere. Called RACQ. A bloke pulled up & found out he was a mechanic so we had a discussion. His thoughts were a dropped valve or cracked ring. Mine were how the F&^% will I pay for this. We decided to hit the starter to have a listen & "bang" she no go anymore.
Long story short is that it was trucked to the mechanics & we'll deal with it tomorrow.
What to do, do i put a new rebuilt motor in it or scrap it & look elsewhere? It's a 95 ST with 235,000 on the clock with a 2" lift. Just had the fuel pump rebuilt & new ckutch put in it recently. I sort of like it but can't afford a new one. Maybe remotor it & keep it for another 100K then sell it. Who knows.
Please tell me this is a bad dream.
What would you do with the beast?


Awh sorry to hear about chitty chitty.  There is nothing more sad than seeing your pride & joy on the back of a tow truck.

We had the experience a couple of weeks a go.  The new fuel pump that we had replaced a week prior just karcked it.  Long story short another new fuel pump all going well.  I am very pleased my wonderful husband is a very patient handy person and could fix my patrol ;D ;D ;D Cheers rellbell
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Re: Patrol go bang!
« Reply #12 on: October 24, 2011, 10:00:19 PM »
Whats your budget...

then take it from there...
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Re: Patrol go bang!
« Reply #13 on: October 24, 2011, 10:06:33 PM »
Not good, I know the feeling I was there about 12 months ago with my patrol.
I wont make any suggestions other than to take your time before making any decisions. Think about the next couple of years (you mentioned 100,000 klm), Where you may be and what you might need or want. It may be time for a change, Or you could give the old girl a bit of love and another couple of years (the car that is). It will probably be a head vs heart decision either way.
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Re: Patrol go bang!
« Reply #14 on: October 24, 2011, 10:49:36 PM »
Thanks guys for all your kind words
Just got back from my mates place, he is lending me one of his Falcon spare cars till I get this sorted. (He owned a taxi co. till recently & still has a couple of falcons sitting around)
I'll keep you all posted whether it gets fixed or its on its way.
Regards to all
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Re: Patrol go bang!
« Reply #15 on: October 24, 2011, 11:30:36 PM »
I also feel your pain mate I had a worry with my 2.8 GU a few months ago but turned out to be not as bad as I thought, hopefully yours is something similar, if your mechanically minded at all maybe a home rebuild is worth a look you can get them at a good price, good luck mate
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Re: Patrol go bang!
« Reply #16 on: October 25, 2011, 05:05:56 AM »
Had my 2.8 slip a timing belt end everything went BANG, full rebuild and she is back in business the dearest part of the whole rebuild was the head.
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Re: Patrol go bang!
« Reply #17 on: October 25, 2011, 05:22:16 AM »
Quote from: mystq on October 25, 2011, 05:05:56 AM
Had my 2.8 slip a timing belt end everything went BANG, full rebuild and she is back in business the dearest part of the whole rebuild was the head.
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Re: Patrol go bang!
« Reply #18 on: October 25, 2011, 05:23:14 AM »
Quote from: fishfinder on October 25, 2011, 05:22:16 AM
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Na, I like the 2.8 :angel:
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Re: Patrol go bang!
« Reply #19 on: October 25, 2011, 06:35:08 AM »
Pull the head, pull the sump and check the bores.  Drop a main cap and a big end bearing cap.

This will give you some idea if its salvageable or not.

You never know how good or bad it is.  You may get away with a basic hone, rings, bearings and gasket set and then sell it.

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Re: Patrol go bang!
« Reply #20 on: October 25, 2011, 07:22:53 AM »
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steal burn and claim on insurance
The thought had crossed my mind, but undriveable & in the mechanics shop already.....
Oh well. Back to the drawing board.
As for fixing it myself, it is my daily driver so it's going to have to be sooner rather than later plus I have limited tools & space so that is out of the question.
May be a long motor if the prognosis is terminal.
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Re: Patrol go bang!
« Reply #21 on: October 25, 2011, 07:54:27 AM »
Quote from: fishfinder on October 25, 2011, 05:22:16 AM
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Funny, thats just what I was thinking  >:D
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« Reply #22 on: October 25, 2011, 08:22:16 AM »
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Just got back from my mates place, he is lending me one of his Falcon spare cars till I get this sorted

At least the Falcon will be a little better off road.  Use this time wisely and get to some places you were never able to with your Patrol..... ;D
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Re: Patrol go bang!
« Reply #23 on: October 25, 2011, 08:33:22 AM »
Quote from: rotare on October 25, 2011, 08:22:16 AM
At least the Falcon will be a little better off road.  Use this time wisely and get to some places you were never able to with your Patrol..... ;D
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Re: Patrol go bang!
« Reply #24 on: October 25, 2011, 08:39:13 AM »
Quote from: rotare on October 25, 2011, 08:22:16 AM
At least the Falcon will be a little better off road.  Use this time wisely and get to some places you were never able to with your Patrol..... ;D





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