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If you were buying a 2nd hand swag
« on: June 17, 2024, 03:35:02 PM »
I might be in the market for a 2nd hand swag. I have never used or owned a swag before but I may be doing a road trip with a mate and would need a swag for sleeping in.

I would prefer 1 that doesn't lay flat on top of you and must have a really comfortable matress.
So what do I need to look at in a 2nd hand swag, any brands better or worse than others ?

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Re: If you were buying a 2nd hand swag
« Reply #1 on: June 17, 2024, 04:03:37 PM »
Do you want to borrow mine? Its probably even up forsale.. its a double so plenty of room
Think I got a single one too... might ahve sold that in the past.. willll look

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Re: If you were buying a 2nd hand swag
« Reply #2 on: June 17, 2024, 06:18:39 PM »
Quote from: xcvator on June 17, 2024, 03:35:02 PM
I might be in the market for a 2nd hand swag. I have never used or owned a swag before but I may be doing a road trip with a mate and would need a swag for sleeping in.

I would prefer 1 that doesn't lay flat on top of you and must have a really comfortable matress.
So what do I need to look at in a 2nd hand swag, any brands better or worse than others ?

One of the dome types, of which there are many.  Most come with a minimum of 50mm of foam but that's a bit thin for me to sleep on the ground. I used to add a thermarest mattress which I already owned.

Now I put swag on a stretcher. Working for me for a decade or so now.

Good luck





   
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Re: If you were buying a 2nd hand swag
« Reply #3 on: June 17, 2024, 08:51:00 PM »
Darche, Ive had one for nearly  30 years.  If you can find one going cheap for $200 or so get it.  However they are expensive and you are a tight arse  :angel:

Woken up in it under 6 inches of snow, and slept under the stars with its insect canopy the ony thing between SHMBO and myself and the stars.

otherwise, buy new, they are pretty good:

https://www.anacondastores.com/camping-hiking/tents/swags/dune-4wd-king-titan-deluxe-double-swag/90166861?gad_source=1&gclid=Cj0KCQjwvb-zBhCmARIsAAfUI2vX_MWdUHHab72RN1G943CebMd9GPGfcCT7eKFiQ8pfObc2TfavDpsaArwNEALw_wcB&gclsrc=aw.ds


Buy a double, not a single...   if you want to sleep with a freind the doubles are very close proximity. 


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Re: If you were buying a 2nd hand swag
« Reply #4 on: June 17, 2024, 11:02:13 PM »
As above, get a stretcher too. 100% worth it, even a cheap Kings one. Getting up off the floor sucks, especially if the ground is uneven.
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Re: If you were buying a 2nd hand swag
« Reply #5 on: June 18, 2024, 07:36:25 AM »
what about a bunker style, with a self-inflating mattress?

i have both... works a treat.
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Re: If you were buying a 2nd hand swag
« Reply #6 on: June 18, 2024, 08:12:15 AM »
Just noticed that Anaconda have a Dune double swag special down from $500 to $149, probably cheaper than a second hand one.

Good luck.
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Re: If you were buying a 2nd hand swag
« Reply #7 on: June 18, 2024, 10:38:44 AM »
Just on cheaper ones... Daughter bought one from the big 4wd place in Dandenong near Jayco and it seriously leaks more than a sieve
It wasnt damp inside, there were large puddles inside - this was after the 2nd round of seasoning... not sure if it was made of canvas or flyscreen.

Their solution "season it again".. which we did for a week....

NFG when we took it back the 4th time.
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Re: If you were buying a 2nd hand swag
« Reply #8 on: June 18, 2024, 11:21:13 AM »
Quote from: Bird on June 18, 2024, 10:38:44 AM
Just on cheaper ones... Daughter bought one from the big 4wd place in Dandenong near Jayco and it seriously leaks more than a sieve
It wasnt damp inside, there were large puddles inside - this was after the 2nd round of seasoning... not sure if it was made of canvas or flyscreen.

Their solution "season it again".. which we did for a week....

NFG when we took it back the 4th time.

Good call. Some Cheaper dome types said to have issues with saggy sides as well. I’m a Darche user. Never regetted paying extra.
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Re: If you were buying a 2nd hand swag
« Reply #9 on: June 18, 2024, 11:21:25 AM »
I have a couple of kings doubles that i bought cheap 2nd hand, never had an issue and would be happy to buy another. Get a 75mm mattress if you can as the 50mm isnt quite enough.
 If you want to use it on a stretcher then maybe a king single would be better.

Lots for sale on facebook marketplace of all different brands.
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Re: If you were buying a 2nd hand swag
« Reply #10 on: June 18, 2024, 01:47:03 PM »
Also remember they arent for everyone... i got my first one from a bloke that used it for few hours, spun out hated it and sold it....
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Re: If you were buying a 2nd hand swag
« Reply #11 on: June 18, 2024, 02:13:56 PM »
Quote from: Bird on June 18, 2024, 01:47:03 PM
Also remember they arent for everyone... i got my first one from a bloke that used it for few hours, spun out hated it and sold it....
Second that.
My first swag was a hire job on an outback tour. Some people I travelled with wanted to go home early.
Secondhand makes sense.
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Re: If you were buying a 2nd hand swag
« Reply #12 on: June 18, 2024, 03:18:22 PM »
How do you put a swag on a stretcher ? I've heard of the bunker, not worth the cost for just 1(maybe) trip .
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Re: If you were buying a 2nd hand swag
« Reply #13 on: June 18, 2024, 03:41:41 PM »
Quote from: xcvator on June 18, 2024, 03:18:22 PM
How do you put a swag on a stretcher ? I've heard of the bunker, not worth the cost for just 1(maybe) trip .

Freestanding dome swag like Darche dusk to dawn just sits on top. There’s a tie down at each end for added security.
Need a stretcher that closely matches width of swag.
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Re: If you were buying a 2nd hand swag
« Reply #14 on: June 18, 2024, 05:15:32 PM »
Hi,
   YouTuber Sharkcaver uses one.
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Re: If you were buying a 2nd hand swag
« Reply #15 on: June 18, 2024, 06:26:06 PM »
Quote from: xcvator on June 18, 2024, 03:18:22 PM
How do you put a swag on a stretcher ? I've heard of the bunker, not worth the cost for just 1(maybe) trip .

if it's strictly a one-off... maybe buy a decent setup (swag, stretcher and mattress), then sell it all once you are finished.

at least get some money back (which might be more than you could outlay on a cheaper, second-hand setup)

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Re: If you were buying a 2nd hand swag
« Reply #16 on: June 18, 2024, 07:53:51 PM »
Quote from: xcvator on June 18, 2024, 03:18:22 PM
How do you put a swag on a stretcher ? I've heard of the bunker, not worth the cost for just 1(maybe) trip .
https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-d&q=putting+a+swag+on+a+stretcher
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Re: If you were buying a 2nd hand swag
« Reply #17 on: June 18, 2024, 08:41:03 PM »
I have the original dome swag made by Southern Cross Canvas in Victoria. 25 plus years and fantastic Australian quality.I have a double and my daughters single. Thinking of selling the single as not used but probably a bit far away on the Sunshine Coast.
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Re: If you were buying a 2nd hand swag
« Reply #18 on: June 19, 2024, 09:02:36 AM »
Quote from: Bird on June 18, 2024, 01:47:03 PM
Also remember they arent for everyone... i got my first one from a bloke that used it for few hours, spun out hated it and sold it....

Definitely, that's why i bought a cheap one ($40) in case i didn't like it,6 years later i have 2 x doubles and 1 single.
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Re: If you were buying a 2nd hand swag
« Reply #19 on: June 19, 2024, 04:05:03 PM »
Have a look at a Darche Ridgedome Tourer 1100.  BCF has them on a good special at times.

Roomy as.

A thing to look at is how high the actual dome part is. Some are just of you, others are very generous.

As mentioned, put it on a stretcher. Warmer, more comfy for sleep, and way easier to get in and out of.

And if you can, do what Paceman suggests.

I bought one for my son's 18th, it won out against everything else in a similar style. Better than a Darche Dirty Dee and Dusk to Dawn.
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Re: If you were buying a 2nd hand swag
« Reply #20 on: June 26, 2024, 03:17:35 PM »
What did you decide in the end...?
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Re: If you were buying a 2nd hand swag
« Reply #21 on: June 26, 2024, 04:39:33 PM »
Quote from: Bird on June 26, 2024, 03:17:35 PM
What did you decide in the end...?
Haven't yet, it's a long way to go to Proserpine to catch a fish, even if they are 30kgs
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Re: If you were buying a 2nd hand swag
« Reply #22 on: June 29, 2024, 03:14:12 PM »
As others have said, definitely get a stretcher as well.
Having used number of stretchers in the past I can state that NOTHING beats an ARB stretcher. Fastest setup (3 seconds), not rocking and just overall sturdiness - second to none. To top it all, its not even that expensive.

I have been using my Southern Cross swag with this stretcher for few years now and am finally happy with my swag and stretcher setup. Add a gazebo over this setup with side walls and you are laughing mate.
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Re: If you were buying a 2nd hand swag
« Reply #23 on: June 29, 2024, 04:57:35 PM »
Quote from: grunf on June 29, 2024, 03:14:12 PM
As others have said, definitely get a stretcher as well.
Having used number of stretchers in the past I can state that NOTHING beats an ARB stretcher. Fastest setup (3 seconds), not rocking and just overall sturdiness - second to none. To top it all, its not even that expensive.

I have been using my Southern Cross swag with this stretcher for few years now and am finally happy with my swag and stretcher setup. Add a gazebo over this setup with side walls and you are laughing mate.

I can’t recommend the Southern Cross swag highly enough, had mine for around 20 years ( branded in ARB red and grey) and before that a Southern Cross tent that is still in the family .

Gruff, Out of interest  what size swag/stretcher are you using.
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